Curse

Laraja · May 28, 2010, 06:44 PM // 18:44

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Originally Posted by Skyy High

Also: Faulken runs weren't fun. They were grindtastic. Boss bounties are at least cute little battles (with dialog, apparently) that people PUG (successfully, in my experience, I might add, probably because most people who are doing these quests are involved enough on forums to know how to complete the WiK quest chain). Bounties should be more rewarding than some repetitive farmable content, that's just the logical way to do things.

QFT.

Have to admit I was first a little irritated at the Falken nerf (it did seem way easy for the reward), but when Anet more than made up for it with the Wanted bounties I actually feel... relieved that the grindfest is over. Those runs weren't fun at all. I was, however, very much enjoying the wanted bounties despite the low reward. It's nice to see that the rewards are buffed accordingly.

Reformed · May 28, 2010, 06:56 PM // 18:56

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Originally Posted by Falynn Firestorm

It's nice to see that the rewards are buffed accordingly.

Ask me how I know you haven't done today's yet. People ran Falken because these piddly 3/1 bounties are a joke.

tazer · May 28, 2010, 06:58 PM // 18:58

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Originally Posted by Falynn Firestorm

QFT.
It's nice to see that the rewards are buffed accordingly.

Guess what... not anymore!

Today's bounty is again for 3-4 War Supplies, lol.
So basically what they've done they added two rewarding bounties and that's it, the rest is nefred. And of course Falken runs with NOTinfused Falken vs Spectral Agony ftw, you all got your demanding content

Too bad that DoA is still more profitable and the rest of casual gamers without time to farm long hours are screwed.

Dark Paladin X · May 28, 2010, 07:04 PM // 19:04

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Originally Posted by tazer

Guess what... not anymore!

Today's bounty is again for 3-4 War Supplies, lol.
So basically what they've done they added two rewarding bounties and that's it, the rest is nefred. And of course Falken runs with NOTinfused Falken vs Spectral Agony ftw, you all got your demanding content

Too bad that DoA is still more profitable and the rest of casual gamers without time to farm long hours are screwed.

Do you even realize how hard is it to farm War Supplies by normal means with Courier Falken? Besides 15 War Supplies for a Royal Gift is a big ripoff when they nerfed the rewards of Courier Falken (heck, the cost of getting a Red Gift Bag, Gift of the Huntsman/Traveler and a Wintersday Gift happens to be a MUCH better deal than the cost of getting a Royal Gift). Oh yeah, the reward of today's quest is ripoff as well, I think they did that intentionally.

Think of getting a Royal Gift as trying to get a Blindfold headgear now.

Kharmin · May 28, 2010, 07:04 PM // 19:04

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Originally Posted by tazer

... and the rest of casual gamers without time to farm long hours are screwed.

Yep. And WiK was something I was really looking forward to trying to stay up with in the limited play-time that my schedule allows. Update makes it much less worth the effort.

tazer · May 28, 2010, 07:17 PM // 19:17

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

Do you even realize how hard is it to farm War Supplies by normal means with Courier Falken?

I believe I do and I've been a little sarcastic in my message, if you get it differently

But I totally agree, War Supplies are pretty much unfarmable at the moment or at least totally not worth the effort to get, for example, 1 virtual flask of alcohol.
Actually anyone knows a nice spot to farm Confessor's Orders, preferably filled with White Mantle, not Peacekeppers?

FoxBat · May 28, 2010, 07:20 PM // 19:20

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Originally Posted by dancing gnome

None of the rewards for War Supplies were the same as the elite areas so this was just a nice casual reward for casual play.

Yeah you're right, 1k/minute beats all elite areas.

TBH Falken isn't really even dead IMO. I don't think we can repeat the 30-bounties and the new daily ones are still fairly craptastic. You can do an HM courier run with H/H in around 10 mins, that's still a strong repeatable option, and the supplies will hold market value better commesurate with the slower farming.

tazer · May 28, 2010, 07:44 PM // 19:44

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Originally Posted by FoxBat

You can do an HM courier run with H/H in around 10 mins, that's still a strong repeatable option

Are you sure about those numbers? Because all I could do with H/H, Asuran Summon and Stone Summon within 10 mins was LA run in NM. Others were 12-13 minutes. I got pimped out Discordway heroes, me being 4th necro with Discord.
So even assuming that I could do HM LA run within similar time, I would argue that 4 War Supplies are strong repeatable option

zwei2stein · May 28, 2010, 07:56 PM // 19:56

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

Look, even if I have proper skill setup with my heroes and pick up the henchies, vanquishing is still a pain in the ass. That's why consets are really needed for vanquishing. Consider Joko's Domain, which is a total hellhole to vanquish (and I need help on that).

No you don't.

Or rather: You are making game hellhole for yourself now so that it will be easy in future. You might as well just try to vanquish JD rightaway and it would be actually less of pain.

See, you choose:

"Hellhole now, easy in future", while you could have just: "Hellhole now".

Basically, Time spent farming consets+Easy conset vanquish time >>> Conset-less vanquish time.

Only consumables worth farming for when you are working on gwamm are booze, sweets and party items (pick one).

kanuks · May 28, 2010, 08:41 PM // 20:41

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

Look, even if I have proper skill setup with my heroes and pick up the henchies, vanquishing is still a pain in the ass. That's why consets are really needed for vanquishing. Consider Joko's Domain, which is a total hellhole to vanquish (and I need help on that).

I did joko's a whiiiiiiile ago, before the we shall return buff. Might have to try it out again now. I don't think i'll have much problems with my new improved hero builds. But i would never uses cons for vqs. I waste well enough money on stupid lockpicks (more than 5k chests opened, without chest running).

HawkofStorms · May 28, 2010, 10:43 PM // 22:43

Kinda a weird... inverted way to nerf mind wreck by nerfing overload.

Eh, better then nothing

Endrance · May 29, 2010, 06:53 PM // 18:53

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Originally Posted by dancing gnome

Courier Falken was never more profitable than speed clears or even ecto farming. It was less efficient than the most profitable farms, Falken was just doable by almost everyone using any build.

You might be an elitist who believes only people who play with permasins and cookie cutter builds in elite areas should be able to make some money, but I disagree.

People are upset because the game gave us a way to make money without playing in HM or running a cookie cutter speed clear build. They liked playing any class they wanted with any build they wanted and they didn't suffer for bringing guildies or friends, in fact is was more fun to do that. The game gave us that and then took it away because apparently everything has to be a grind or reserved for gimmick SC builds.

QFT. We finally got to make money while using our own builds+having fun with friends and others and them making money as well, with them also using their own builds.

wetwillyhip · May 29, 2010, 08:44 PM // 20:44

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Originally Posted by Endrance

QFT. We finally got to make money while using our own builds+having fun with friends and others and them making money as well, with them also using their own builds.

AGREED. I hate that courier is not worth it anymore and now we rely on bounties only... that are still a pain long ass journey sometimes for 10 in NM and 5 extra in HM.

Tullzinski · May 29, 2010, 10:31 PM // 22:31

Courier Falken is on his own, sucks to be him! Messages are NOT going to get through!!! Not worth the time...

Ban more botters!!!

If ANET lowered the prices on gifts and medals then maybe it would be worth it, otherwise CF is screwed.

dancing gnome · May 30, 2010, 04:19 PM // 16:19

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Originally Posted by Tullzinski

Courier Falken is on his own, sucks to be him! Messages are NOT going to get through!!! Not worth the time...

Ban more botters!!!

If ANET lowered the prices on gifts and medals then maybe it would be worth it, otherwise CF is screwed.

It would be absolutely hillarious if the War in Kryta was lost by the Shining Blade because vital information was not getting through and was being intercepted by the White Mantle to be used against them.

I would love it so much if the Live Team changed the story of the WiK to reflect that their nerf to Falken runs resulted in no more escorts. In Guild Wars 2 Divinity's Reach is ruled by the White Mantle because Salma was too stingy with her rewards.